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Everything that we know and have learned
about mankind and its place in the

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universe suggests that we are a part

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of the norm. We are not the exception.

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Within the last month, a planet was
identified that has water a mere 110

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years away from Earth.

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We need to begin to prepare.

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to accept and understand that we are not
alone in the universe, have not been

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at all throughout this time.

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The same year that life -giving water
was discovered on a distant planet, the

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.S. Navy made a startling announcement.

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Images captured by its pilots of objects
exhibiting a vastly superior technology

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were authentic.

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We can start to finally, at long last,
after all these decades, begin to answer

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these questions about the origin of
these vehicles, where they're from, how

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they're made, how they function, and why
they're here.

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People need to know there is something
else out there.

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To fully understand, we must examine a
body of evidence long suppressed, a

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parallel history to the one we think we
know, stretching back at least 70 years.

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On a clear, sunny day in 1955, William
Coleman, a decorated World War II

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pilot, took off from Miami on a routine
flight to deliver a B -25 bomber to an

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airbase in Mississippi.

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My co -pilot said, look at that bright
spot up there. I think it's just a

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reflection of the sun, a craze probably
in the windshield.

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He and his passengers, two aviation
engineers, realized it was a strange

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making a rapid descent right across
their flight path.

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My God, look at that thing.

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I opened it up to max continuous power.

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Here we're clipping right along at over
300 miles an hour, right on the treetop.

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I'm right on the tail of the thing.

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As we got closer, I said, it doesn't
have a tail. It doesn't have any wings.

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Look at the shadow on the ground. The
shadow is perfectly round.

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That's not an airplane.

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And I said, I'm overtaking it. So I
said, hang on.

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So I'm going to make a hard turn.

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There it was, a disc.

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Going across the field with two big
swirls.

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What I didn't see was any exhaust
propulsion.

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No rivet lines, a rounded edge about
that size where it all came together.

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A true flying saucer.

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Then it seemed to vanish until they
spotted it thousands of feet above them.

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Bright, yellow, sunnish -looking object.

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It went like a bat out of hell.

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After they landed, the stunned witnesses
were separately debriefed by Project

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Blue Book.

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the Air Force investigation of the UFO
phenomenon.

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Ironically, a little over a decade
later, Colonel William T. Coleman became

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public spokesman for Project Blue Book.

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Probably what we saw may have been from
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Look, the Air Force is a very deadly
being when it comes to intercepting an

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unknown.

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If it proves hostile, we're going to
shoot it down.

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Other than that, no problem.

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In the late 1940s, America seemed
impregnable to military threat.

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It had just emerged from World War II,
Masters of the Air, the only nuclear

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-armed superpower in the world.

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But in 1947, something appeared in the
sky, and everything

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changed.

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Every newscaster and every newspaper
across the nation has made headlines out

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it. And this afternoon, we are honored
indeed to have here in our studio this

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man, Kenneth Arnold, who we believe may
be able to give us a first -hand account

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and give you the same on what happened.

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I kept looking for their tails. They
didn't have any tails.

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I thought, well, maybe something's wrong
with my eyes. They seem to flip and

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flash in the sun just like a mirror.

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I'd be glad to confirm it with my hands
on a Bible because I did see it.

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And whether it has anything to do with
our army or our intelligence or whether

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it has to do with some foreign country,
I don't know.

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Arnold had sent this sketch to the Air
Force following his sighting.

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He was later invited to California's
Hamilton Field Army Air Base, where he

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handed what he was told were authentic
photos of a similar craft.

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At the request of Lieutenant Colonel
Donald Springer, commanding officer of

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4th Air Force Intelligence, and was
given the above prints as a courtesy for

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assistance he had given military
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The photo was taken in Arizona just two
weeks after his own encounter.

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They said that my father's sighting of
flying saucers got more attention than

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the ending of World War II.

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He was besieged by newspaper reporters
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Reporters interviewed United Airlines
pilot E .J. Smith, who also flew the

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He joked Arnold had likely been fooled
by a cockpit reflection until he, too,

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became a witness a few weeks later.

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He and his stunned crew had watched as
nine disks maneuvered in formation for a

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full 45 minutes.

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And from there it just exploded. The
first few days in July of 1947 had a

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large level of exciting activity.

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These unknown objects barnstormed across
the country, sometimes in fleet -like

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formations that looked like a deliberate
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Hundreds of people told Air Force
investigators they'd seen the saucers

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their own eyes.

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Bright, shiny things that whished
through the air at incredible speeds.

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Even airline pilots who seldom indulge
in fantasy reported sighting them.

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And Air Force flyers told of chasing
them or something all over the sky.

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The Air Force called them unidentified
flying objects.

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But people went right on calling them
saucers and seeing there was something

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the air.

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But a then -secret memorandum by the
same general suggested that the highest

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military echelons thought there was
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The memo states, quote, the phenomenon
reported is something real and not

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visionary or fictitious.

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It described metallic disks, circular in
shape, with domes on top, often

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traveling in formations of three to nine
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It also listed aerodynamic capabilities
with disturbing implications for

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national defense, extreme rates of
climb.

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dazzling maneuverability, and a superior
capacity for evasive action.

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A lot of people expected that the United
States government was about to confirm,

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okay, they're ours. This is an exciting
new technological advance that we were

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testing, and now it's time to tell
people about it.

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Occasionally, eyewitness testimony
included compelling photographic

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Evelyn Trent was feeding her rabbits
when she spotted a metallic disc -shaped

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object floating over their farm.

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She alerted her husband, Paul, to grab
his camera, and he managed to get two

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shots.

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They described the object slowly
hovering before it abruptly sped away.

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Life magazine picked up the story, and
the McMinnville UFO became a global

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sensation.

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There's no chance of this being weather.

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There's no chance of this being a star
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This is either some kind of structured
object that we don't know what it is, or

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it's a hoax. Paul Trent and his wife,
they were honest, simple.

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hardworking people who never made a dime
off the photographs that they took.

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They never tried to make a dime off of
it. It just come up like that and tipped

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and just, I mean, really went.

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It went fast.

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I've never seen anything go so fast in
my life as that thing went.

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In 1951, future astronaut Gordon Cooper,
while training in Germany, chased a

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large formation with his squadron of
fighter jets.

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Unlike fighters, they would stop, almost
stop in their forward velocity and

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change 90 degrees sometimes in their
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And within the next two to three days,
we'd had practically all the fighters we

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could muster on the base up climbing as
high as they would climb with guys with

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binoculars in them still trying to spot
these.

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Trains, devices flying overhead.

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We never could get close enough really
to pin them down, but they were round in

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shape and very metallic looking.

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And they would come over and do the same
maneuvers that we make, except every

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once in a while one of them goes to the
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Like two saucers, one inverted over the
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They seemed to be made of some kind of
polished metal.

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When I first saw the objects, they were
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By the time I had the camera ready to
go, they had moved to a considerably

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greater distance.

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But the unknowns showed no signs of
hostility, an otherworldly power on its

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mysterious mission.

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Commercial pilots William Nash and
William Fortenberry, former Navy

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with thousands of hours of flight
experience, saw eight huge disks fly in

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stack formation over Chesapeake Bay,
Virginia, just a stone's throw from

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Washington, D .C.

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When they came out over the blackness of
the bay, they're distinct.

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Six red coins.

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When they got closer, we could see
that...

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It looked like you were looking down
into it, like a hot coal.

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They reported the glowing red objects
had approached them head -on at a speed

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they estimated at 6 ,000 to 12 ,000
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It came in like this and went out like
this.

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There would be no way of making complete
reversal or a 90 -degree turn 12

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,000 miles an hour or greater.

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without making the occupants juice on
the wall.

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That kind of really shook us up. Looking
at the thing shook us up.

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Nothing could have gotten to that degree
of scientific

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progress without some of the
intermediate steps having become public

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We just knew that they were not from
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The unthinkable happened.

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The nation's capital was invaded from
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Seven unknown blips suddenly appeared on
radar at Washington National Airport.

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Air traffic controllers at both Andrews
and Bowling Air Force bases confirmed

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the objects as they danced through
restricted airspace.

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Capitol building, the White House where
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These were some of the most important
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national defense.

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And there were UFOs violating this
airspace, and there was nothing that the

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Force could do about it.

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F -94 interceptors were scrambled.

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Pentagon Press liaison Al Chopp was in
the radar room that night.

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We could see the planes coming in on
this radar scope. In a minute, we saw

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beginning of these guys.

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UFOs disappeared.

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They just left.

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Obviously, whatever these things were,
had intelligence enough to get out of

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area when they had an intercept going
in.

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But the next weekend, it began again.

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Pilot William Patterson pushed his
Starfire jet to maximum speed to try to

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intercept one of the glowing objects.

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Flew right into the middle of the four
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Al Chop recalls the pilot's panicky air
-to -ground transmission as he streaked

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at 600 miles per hour into a group of
unknowns.

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He actually said they're closing in on
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What do I do?

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It was frightening.

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The Air Force had just issued orders to
shoot down the unknowns if, quote, They

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can't talk them down.

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I was trying to tell an Air Force pilot
to fire at the damn thing or anything.

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I didn't say anything.

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Nobody said anything.

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And then all of a sudden, things began
to move away from him.

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And he said, they're gone.

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I'm convinced they're solid objects.

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I'm convinced that they're probably from
another planet or from outer space

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somewhere.

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I've always felt that way since that
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The very next day, the Air Force's top
brass hastily prepared the largest

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Pentagon press conference since World
War II.

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Seen here in a last -minute huddle,
General Roger Ramey, Air Force Director

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Operations at the Pentagon.

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Captain Edward Ruppelt of Project Blue
Book.

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the Air Force's official UFO
investigations arm, and Director of Air

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Intelligence, General John Sanford.

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Since 1947, we have received and
analyzed between one and two thousand

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that have come to us from all kinds of
sources.

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Of this great mass of reports, we have
been able adequately to explain the

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bulk of them.

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However, there have been a certain
percentage of this volume of reports

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have been made by credible observers of
relatively incredible things.

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We can say that the recent sightings are
in no way connected with any secret

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development by any department of the
United States.

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In the Q andA with reporters, Sanford
suggested a 50 -50 chance it could have

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radar waves bouncing off temperature
inversions.

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The point that Sanford put across all
too effectively was that they were not

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real. They were just tricks of the
atmosphere.

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And atmospheric phenomena can't be a
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You don't shoot at clouds.

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The public was pondering the
implications of possible

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Robert L. Farnsworth, president of the
United States Rocket Society, urged

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defense officials not to permit our
planes to fire at any flying saucers. He

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says this might alienate mankind from
beings of far superior forces.

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Farnsworth feels that friendly contact
should be sought as long as possible.

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Behind the scenes, the CIA had other
concerns.

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A secret internal memo urged immediate
attention to unexplained objects in the

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vicinity of major U .S. defense
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I would dare say if anything happened
that we thought was a threat to our

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national security, somebody out there,
one of the services, would respond to

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Remember, this is the height of the Cold
War.

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There are bombers on both sides loaded
with nuclear bombs.

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Dr. Jacques Vallée was the inspiration
for the French UFO researcher and Steven

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Spielberg's close encounters of the
third kind.

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In real life, Dr.

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Vallée conducted sober scientific
research on the phenomenon.

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We know now that there is no simple
answer.

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For decades, he met with witnesses and
traveled the globe gathering evidence,

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ultimately creating the first database
on the UFO subject.

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Mr. Chairman, all the great nations of
the world are represented on this

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committee. Let us keep in mind that the
UFO phenomenon may represent an even

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greater reality.

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Vallée also consulted with scientific,
military, and government officials.

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including Project Blue Book's top
science advisor, Dr.

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J. Allen Hynek.

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I began my work as scientific consultant
to the United States Air Force as an

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open skeptic.

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Hynek was a university astronomer with a
high security clearance when the Air

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Force recruited him to investigate UFOs.

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And it so happened when the Air Force
got the job of trying to figure out what

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some of these strange flying saucer
stories were about, well, they needed an

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astronomer to see how many of the
reports could possibly be explained as

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and twinkling stars and planets.

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The two scientists became close
colleagues, with Hynek entrusting Vallée

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index the reams of Blue Book files
scattered throughout Hynek's home.

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It was there that Vallée made a chance
discovery of a letter so secret he had

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appeal to the chief counsel of the
Senate Defense Appropriations Committee

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get it declassified.

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That document changed my life.

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It taught me that the subject had been
taken much more seriously than anybody

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thought. The document revealed an ultra
-secret, highly funded scientific

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investigation.

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working parallel to Blue Book, unknown
to all but a select few.

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The letter was signed by H .C. Cross,
director of exotic metallurgy at

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Battelle National Laboratories.

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These were the people who had analyzed
the facts with a large budget, with

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highly competent physicists and computer
scientists.

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Who are these people?

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What information did they have?

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Good evening. Tonight we go after a
fantastic story. The story that flying

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saucers from other worlds are visiting
our planet just as we are exploring

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space with our own rocket satellites.

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Our guest is former Marine Air Corps
Major Donald Kehoe in his campaign to

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that flying saucers exist.

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My name is Mike Wallace. The cigarette
is Parliament.

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Why will the United States government
withhold information from United States

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citizens? For what reason? The airport
is simply treating the American people

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like children. They don't trust them
with the facts.

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During the 50s and 60s, it wasn't just
the Americans who were seeing flying

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saucers. At the Westall School in
Australia, several hundred students saw

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object hovering over this power line
tower on their athletic field, an event

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they vividly recall 50 years later.

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A student came into the classroom, you
know, there's flying saucers in the

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there's flying saucers. And everybody
ran out.

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And I remember the fear and the hysteria
of all the students. I couldn't believe

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it because what I was seeing wasn't
possible.

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It was vertical, horizontal.

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move away from us, back towards us,
appear somewhere else, somewhere else.

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My God, you know, but it was exciting.

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It was like that and then all of a
sudden it just turned on its side and I

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see that it was a round disc.

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The children saw the disc begin to
descend into this wooded reserve at the

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of the school's running path.

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I ran towards the corner of the school,
jumped the fence.

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and ran towards where it looked as
though it went down into the tree and

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stopped dead because it was right in
front of me on the ground.

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Like a disc with a slight rise in the
middle, I also heard a low sort of a

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humming noise and I felt a bit of a heat
coming off it as well.

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And... It started to take off pretty
well straight away. It had all bluey

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-purple lights around the bottom. I
don't remember seeing any windows.

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And it took off to about probably four
or five metres in the air and then

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on its side and just went, zoom,
straight up so fast that there's just

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even nowadays, that could go that fast.

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Shortly after the object departed, the
authorities converged on the school.

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We had army, air force, police down
there cordoning off the area to prevent

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of us entering the area or disturbing
anything.

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We got called to assembly. The
headmaster said, you have not seen this.

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not talk about it. You'll be in trouble
if you do.

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For the first time ever, the school
science teacher agreed to describe what

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saw that day, providing we concealed his
identity.

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It was not a mirage.

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There was something physical in the sky.
It was silver. It could hover.

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It could move slowly.

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It could move very rapidly.

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Eventually, it moved away to the other
side of the oval and down behind some

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pine trees.

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I was not then nor ever have been able
to use my knowledge of the world nor

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my scientific training to provide a
rational explanation.

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What he said next sheds light on why the
school staff have remained silent all

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these years.

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I was a knock on the door one night. Two
older men, one in uniform, asked for my

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description of what I'd seen.

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I was then told that I hadn't seen
anything, that I'd made it all up,

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because I was drunk, and that they would
have to report that back to the

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education department and I would lose my
job. After that, I was told...

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that I would be prosecuted under the
Official Secrets Act, and I was told

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there wasn't anything there when I knew
there was, and that I had to keep quiet

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about it.

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Why did I have to keep quiet?

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The Westall landing may not have been an
isolated incident.

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Four days prior... A then -young
engineer in nearby Baldwin was taking

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his mother's garden when something
caught his eye. This tremendous flash of

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light, and I looked up, and I saw this
object, and I pulled it. I had a

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camera, and I pulled this up and hit
myself on the face, and I took the

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and I took the photograph here. This is
the original Polaroid.

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That's it.

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This is how bad it is.

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It looked like it was made out of some
form of metal and it was engineered.

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And being an engineer, I was sure it
was.

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And that's when I took the photograph
and it tipped around and I could see the

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bottom and it looked like it was
rotating to me.

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That was it. And then after that, it
sort of gave a bounce and it rocketed

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to the north at very high speed.

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Can you describe the acceleration?

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It was like almost instantaneous, like
it had been shot out of a gun.

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Wham, you know.

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Air Force officers showed up at his
doorstep, asking for every detail of his

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experience. And they also had some
photographs of similar things, and they

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had a book which had pictures of things
in which they didn't leave with me

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unless I had a look through.

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They said it was an unidentified flying
object.

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That was it.

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What was the implication?

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That it didn't come from anywhere on
Earth.

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Project Blue Book, with a skeletal
staff, continued publicly collecting

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thousands of cases.

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Despite efforts to explain them away,
hundreds were still filed as unknown.

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Several reports of a strange egg -shaped
object about 200 feet long landing on

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farms and highways last night in the
vicinity of Leveland.

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Sheriff Glenn says he even himself got a
glimpse of the thing which somehow

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turned off lights and auto engines when
it came near.

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Within 24 to 36 hours after these
sightings in Levelland, Texas, at the

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Sands Proving Ground, very close to the
Trinity test site where they first

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detonated the first atomic bomb,
military personnel witnessed a glowing

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-shaped object that apparently landed.

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This is Joe Haggard.

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Public information out to the White
Sands Proving Ground in Mexico.

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What they saw...

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Looks like a landing and takeoff of some
controlled object from outer space.

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Well, I was chasing a car up Bark
Street. It was reckless driving.

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I saw this big cloud of smoke, so I
decided to let go of the car and go up

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and investigate.

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By the time I got there, I could see a
big white object sitting in the arroyo.

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I couldn't tell what it was at first.

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My radio was dead. It didn't work at
all.

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I could see some figures.

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Looked like they were walking around the
craft there.

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They appeared to be dressed in white
coveralls and were childlike, that is,

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small.

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Zamora added that one of the two persons
turned his head and looked straight at

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him.

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When I got out of the car, about 50 feet
from it,

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I guess they saw me because they started
their motor, whatever it is.

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I could see a big blast of fire coming
from right under it.

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So I was behind some bushes there,
behind my car.

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I could see it, and I could feel that
heat.

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That really got me scared, you know.

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A lot of people say, why don't you take
your gun out and shoot at it, you know.

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That wouldn't do nothing to me, so.

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It just took a little while to get
airborne.

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Came up a little bit, about 20, 30 feet,
and it stayed there a little while.

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And it stayed just as quiet as it could
be.

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And then just flew away, that's it.

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Lonnie was very, very scared. He was as
white as a sheet. From here, went

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directly to the church to talk to the
priest.

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Pablo Lopez was among the first to
arrive at the landing and takeoff site.

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The ground was still smoldering and some
of the weeds that were around it. This

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rare footage gives us a glimpse of the
scene shortly after the incident.

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Patrolman Zamora stoops to point out one
of the landing gear imprints where

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officers had just placed rocks to
protect the fresh ground traces.

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And then there was a set, two sets of
footprints, two sets of footprints like

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so.

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That was about the approximate size of
them.

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In comparison to a quarter, that's
pretty small.

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That's about the size of them.

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Within an hour and over the next several
days, officials from the FBI, military,

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and Project Blue Book documented the
evidence at the scene.

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Were there any prong marks on the ground
or anything like that where you could

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see where it had landed?

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There were four.

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Very unusual footprints.

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How many were there? Two footprints on
one side and two footprints on the other

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side.

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Of course, the burn area there. I was
behind my car.

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I could see it and I could feel that
heat.

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They told me that all over the state
they had been seeing some of those

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saucers, whatever you call them.

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They gave me a book on that, you know.

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They told me to go ahead and read it.

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Well, it says not to say nothing.

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Keep away from it. Don't say too much,
you know.

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It was the middle of the night by the
time Lonnie came home.

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Oh, he was real pale.

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And I thought he was sick. I said, are
you sick or something? He said, no. He

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said, I was just working. He was like,
like he was angry.

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What I knew about it was when I started
reading the papers, you know.

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Started coming out and coming out and
everything.

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They said, well, what's this that you
saw?

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I don't know. He said, it's just a
headache.

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He said, everybody's after me and some
believe me and some don't.

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Dear Mr.

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Zamora. Dear Mr.

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Zamora.

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I saw a UFO myself in the summer of
1928. I can go on for a week telling you

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what I've seen. A boy in a school
science fair had three pictures that

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just like the flying saucer. I thought I
should write to you to tell you that

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you are not alone in your sighting of
this object.

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I have pictures of a couple of egg
-shaped ships taken. I read about you

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a flying saucer. I'm a retired teacher.
Well, you have a friend who believes in

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you. The saucer phenomenon has changed
my life and ideas.

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And then people started making fun of
him that he had seen

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little men from outer space and this and
that and all this dirty

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stuff.

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A lot of people ask me, is that the
reason you quit the police force?

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The reason I quit the police force is
because I was going into, you know, a

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of publicity and stuff like that, and I
didn't want to hurt the town.

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The level of inquiry went all the way to
the office of the president.

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To this day, the Socorro close encounter
remains unexplained.

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Socorro was very similar to the French
cases that I had.

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brought to Heineck September, checked by
the police, checked by the French Air

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Force, where there were also occupants
who were seen, short beings

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in connection with the objects.

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I think that's what convinced him that
there were UFO landings in the United

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States.

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It looked like a toy top, somewhat
upside down.

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So this is the diagram in which we've
come up with. It's more flat here other

459
00:37:38,150 --> 00:37:41,030
than round, but it does have the hump up
in here.

460
00:37:41,290 --> 00:37:43,710
It seemed to move off the ground if it
was down.

461
00:37:43,970 --> 00:37:47,330
And then we saw three lights that went
from yellow to red.

462
00:37:47,670 --> 00:37:49,630
When we got right up to it, it lit up.

463
00:37:49,910 --> 00:37:54,350
I mean, it really come bright, and we
could see it, the outline of it real

464
00:37:55,760 --> 00:38:01,320
Blue Book's Dr. Alan Hynek investigated
one of the alleged landing sites with

465
00:38:01,320 --> 00:38:02,320
the local sheriff.

466
00:38:03,300 --> 00:38:09,840
At an overflow press conference later
that day, the world held its breath for

467
00:38:09,840 --> 00:38:13,060
historic revelation about the landings
in Michigan.

468
00:38:13,880 --> 00:38:20,320
Hynek, by now privately convinced of the
UFO reality, struggled to follow the

469
00:38:20,320 --> 00:38:24,320
Air Force policy of tamping down public
excitement.

470
00:38:25,480 --> 00:38:28,560
Are you saying that the sightings in the
Ann Arbor and Hillsdale areas

471
00:38:28,560 --> 00:38:33,580
definitely were caused by marsh gasses?
I'm saying that the two cases that I

472
00:38:33,580 --> 00:38:38,820
investigated most deeply were most
likely. I said in a statement that I

473
00:38:38,820 --> 00:38:40,240
prove it in a court of law.

474
00:38:40,720 --> 00:38:43,480
Are you saying then that you don't know
what caused it?

475
00:38:44,040 --> 00:38:48,440
No, that's not quite right. I think that
a person can be pretty sure about

476
00:38:48,440 --> 00:38:50,080
something without being...

477
00:38:50,360 --> 00:38:52,660
able to convict somebody of a murder.
Can you say that?

478
00:38:53,080 --> 00:38:57,520
Yes, I do, honestly, in this case, in
this case.

479
00:38:57,760 --> 00:39:00,180
But you can't say without question that
this is what happened.

480
00:39:00,680 --> 00:39:07,160
Hynek's strained explanation, which he
later called his greatest regret,

481
00:39:07,160 --> 00:39:08,460
a public furor.

482
00:39:08,860 --> 00:39:13,660
Mr. Ford, what about flying saucers?
You've had some in Michigan the past

483
00:39:13,940 --> 00:39:19,160
Dave, we've had several incidents that
many felt were...

484
00:39:19,980 --> 00:39:25,900
sufficient to justify some action by our
government and not the kind of flippant

485
00:39:25,900 --> 00:39:31,920
answer that was given by the Air Force
where they passed it off as a swamp gas.

486
00:39:32,460 --> 00:39:39,280
It seems to me that this mystery does
require that the Congress take a good

487
00:39:39,280 --> 00:39:42,480
look at it. Let them put their record on
the line.

488
00:39:43,740 --> 00:39:45,840
On April 5th, 1966.

489
00:39:46,840 --> 00:39:51,680
Congressional hearings were held with
Dr. Hynek and Secretary of the Air Force

490
00:39:51,680 --> 00:39:54,180
Harold Brown both giving testimony.

491
00:39:57,480 --> 00:40:02,740
Mr. Ford has come out. He has a pretty
good -sized stature in the Congress.

492
00:40:03,040 --> 00:40:08,880
And so, Mr. Secretary, see if you can
shed some light on these highly

493
00:40:08,880 --> 00:40:10,240
illuminated objects.

494
00:40:12,490 --> 00:40:16,330
Mr. Secretary, there have been charges
that the Air Force is hiding something

495
00:40:16,330 --> 00:40:17,330
the UFO field.

496
00:40:17,630 --> 00:40:20,170
We have not been hiding anything.

497
00:40:20,510 --> 00:40:25,670
The investigations have been made
public. The hearing this morning was

498
00:40:25,670 --> 00:40:26,710
for just that reason.

499
00:40:27,010 --> 00:40:32,310
There has never been any evidence
presented to the United States Air Force

500
00:40:32,310 --> 00:40:36,510
discovered by the United States Air
Force which would indicate that the UFO

501
00:40:36,510 --> 00:40:41,770
phenomenon represents any interplanetary
space vehicle of any kind.

502
00:40:44,910 --> 00:40:49,370
Amid growing pressure, the Air Force
commissioned an outside panel of

503
00:40:49,370 --> 00:40:54,810
to analyze select cases and settle the
matter once and for all.

504
00:40:55,310 --> 00:41:01,070
It was headed by physicist Edward
Condon. Dr. Condon, do you hope to find

505
00:41:01,070 --> 00:41:03,550
from outer space here on Earth?

506
00:41:03,990 --> 00:41:08,530
Well, I don't know for sure, but we'll
try to just study the reports and get as

507
00:41:08,530 --> 00:41:11,230
much additional information as we can to
see.

508
00:41:11,740 --> 00:41:16,020
Would you like to have us being visited
by these little or big things?

509
00:41:16,400 --> 00:41:19,520
Well, that'd be fine with me, if I hope
they're friendly.

510
00:41:19,860 --> 00:41:24,120
How do you propose to go about... After
the project was launched, Condon

511
00:41:24,120 --> 00:41:29,360
remarked to an audience that he thought
the UFO subject was nonsense, but,

512
00:41:29,380 --> 00:41:33,680
quote, I'm not supposed to reach that
conclusion for another year.

513
00:41:37,280 --> 00:41:43,030
After a two -year investigation... the
panel submitted a massive 1 ,400 -page

514
00:41:43,030 --> 00:41:49,290
report showing that many cases were
radar and weather anomalies, but

515
00:41:49,290 --> 00:41:51,850
a number as truly unexplainable.

516
00:41:52,550 --> 00:41:59,330
Among them were the famous McMinnville
photos taken on the Trent family farm,

517
00:41:59,330 --> 00:42:02,870
well as film footage of UFOs in Great
Falls, Montana.

518
00:42:04,780 --> 00:42:09,240
As I looked up, I saw two silvery
objects moving swiftly out of the

519
00:42:09,560 --> 00:42:13,580
No sound, except I thought I heard a
whooshing sound when I first saw them.

520
00:42:13,920 --> 00:42:18,060
The disks appeared to be spinning like a
top and were about 50 feet across,

521
00:42:18,200 --> 00:42:22,000
which was much slower than the jets
which shot by shortly after I filmed the

522
00:42:22,000 --> 00:42:23,000
disks.

523
00:42:23,080 --> 00:42:27,260
I could not see any exhaust, wings, or
any kind of fuselage.

524
00:42:27,480 --> 00:42:31,160
They appeared to be of a bright, shiny
metal, like polished silver.

525
00:42:34,600 --> 00:42:39,620
There are cases that are not explainable
in conventional terms.

526
00:42:40,100 --> 00:42:45,340
There is the assumption of intelligence
or intelligent control, but not

527
00:42:45,340 --> 00:42:48,800
necessarily the assumption of direct
communication.

528
00:42:49,280 --> 00:42:50,620
Why are they here?

529
00:42:51,320 --> 00:42:52,560
What are they doing?

530
00:42:52,780 --> 00:42:55,640
What do they want from us? What are
their motivations?

531
00:42:57,300 --> 00:43:00,680
But it was Dr. Condon who wrote the
final word.

532
00:43:01,420 --> 00:43:07,780
There appears to be no verified and
fully satisfactory evidence of any case

533
00:43:07,780 --> 00:43:12,840
is clearly outside the framework of
presently known science and technology.

534
00:43:13,820 --> 00:43:20,580
I would kind of wallow on that one.
You'd have to conclude that what we were

535
00:43:20,580 --> 00:43:24,260
looking at was beyond our current state
of the knowledge.

536
00:43:25,090 --> 00:43:29,890
But it began to hit me that Dr. Condon
has apparently not read his own material

537
00:43:29,890 --> 00:43:33,370
very carefully. You do an actual
tabulation, which he doesn't seem to

538
00:43:33,450 --> 00:43:36,950
and you find his percentage of
unexplained is five to six times larger

539
00:43:36,950 --> 00:43:40,270
Air Force. And yet, what is his
principal recommendation? The principal

540
00:43:40,270 --> 00:43:43,510
recommendation that Dr. Condon has come
through with is there's nothing of

541
00:43:43,510 --> 00:43:46,590
scientific interest that warrants
further attention on the part of the

542
00:43:46,590 --> 00:43:50,510
government here in any major way. He
recommends dropping the whole problem.

543
00:43:51,120 --> 00:43:57,380
Nobody could get funded. Nobody would
look at the data seriously because of

544
00:43:57,380 --> 00:44:03,200
prestige of the academy saying that the
problem had been solved. The Air Force

545
00:44:03,200 --> 00:44:09,220
closed their reporting system so that if
the public wanted to report something,

546
00:44:09,460 --> 00:44:13,520
they would report it to the local
police, that it would never get to the

547
00:44:13,520 --> 00:44:17,620
attention of scientists really examining
the phenomenon.

548
00:44:20,080 --> 00:44:25,860
In 1969, the Air Force officially ended
its public investigations.

549
00:44:28,520 --> 00:44:30,140
Which would suggest what?

550
00:44:31,000 --> 00:44:32,820
That they knew what it was?

551
00:44:34,640 --> 00:44:36,360
Or didn't know what it was.

552
00:44:37,480 --> 00:44:40,620
Also, the other way, that they did know
what it was.

553
00:45:05,070 --> 00:45:09,450
One aspect of the phenomenon that was
swept under the rug was the pervasive

554
00:45:09,450 --> 00:45:15,250
reporting of UFO intrusions at the
world's most sensitive military

555
00:45:16,450 --> 00:45:22,510
Details did not come to light until
decades later at the National Press Club

556
00:45:22,510 --> 00:45:23,650
Washington, D .C.

557
00:45:25,730 --> 00:45:30,970
Declassified U .S. government documents
and witness testimony from former or

558
00:45:30,970 --> 00:45:32,870
retired U .S. military personnel.

559
00:45:33,680 --> 00:45:40,260
Confirm beyond any doubt the reality of
ongoing UFO incursions at nuclear

560
00:45:40,260 --> 00:45:41,480
weapons sites.

561
00:45:41,800 --> 00:45:44,340
What you have heard here today is
evidence of a phenomenon.

562
00:45:44,720 --> 00:45:47,660
It sounds fantastic and it is fantastic.

563
00:45:49,040 --> 00:45:54,420
In 1967, I was a missile launch officer
stationed at Malmstrom Air Force Base,

564
00:45:54,500 --> 00:45:55,500
Montana.

565
00:45:55,680 --> 00:45:59,540
Malmstrom was America's first line of
nuclear defense.

566
00:46:00,280 --> 00:46:06,180
Its silos packed with Minutemen
missiles, each one nearly a hundred

567
00:46:06,180 --> 00:46:09,220
powerful than the bomb that devastated
Hiroshima.

568
00:46:10,440 --> 00:46:16,780
Launch officers could, within minutes of
confirmation, send their birds arcing 6

569
00:46:16,780 --> 00:46:23,560
,000 miles to incinerate key Soviet
cities, triggering a war that would

570
00:46:23,560 --> 00:46:24,660
end our civilization.

571
00:46:39,470 --> 00:46:41,510
I was the chief of party. I was the
observer.

572
00:46:41,950 --> 00:46:47,150
Basically, what I was doing was the star
observation to provide precise latitude

573
00:46:47,150 --> 00:46:52,870
and longitude. On our small three -man
team, it came from the north and stopped

574
00:46:52,870 --> 00:46:53,870
right over us.

575
00:46:54,750 --> 00:47:00,670
And it had a white light from the center
looking down into the silo.

576
00:47:00,990 --> 00:47:05,110
I just said to myself, what if this
thing beams us up and takes us off to

577
00:47:05,110 --> 00:47:08,670
distant place and never returned to
Earth again? I mean, this is going

578
00:47:08,670 --> 00:47:10,530
my head here while this thing's above
me.

579
00:47:11,390 --> 00:47:15,030
And then from this dead stop, it shoots
off to the east.

580
00:47:15,970 --> 00:47:17,910
It's just like, now you see it, now you
don't.

581
00:47:28,120 --> 00:47:29,960
Directly over the LF. Directly over the
site.

582
00:47:36,660 --> 00:47:42,080
Lieutenant Salas was stationed in his
underground launch control capsule when

583
00:47:42,080 --> 00:47:45,640
received a frantic call from one of his
topside guards.

584
00:47:46,020 --> 00:47:51,520
Screaming into the phone saying they're
looking a red glowing object hovering

585
00:47:51,520 --> 00:47:53,560
just above our front gate.

586
00:47:53,930 --> 00:47:58,950
Our missiles began going into what's
called a no -go condition or

587
00:47:59,510 --> 00:48:00,730
Essentially, they were disabled.

588
00:48:03,450 --> 00:48:10,430
In fact, 10 missiles began going offline
in a matter of seconds, one after the

589
00:48:10,430 --> 00:48:11,430
other.

590
00:48:14,150 --> 00:48:17,810
Personally, I'm never aware of any two
missiles going down at the same time,

591
00:48:17,810 --> 00:48:18,689
alone 10.

592
00:48:18,690 --> 00:48:22,190
I was a top secret control officer, and
I passed out nuclear launch

593
00:48:22,190 --> 00:48:23,190
authenticators.

594
00:48:24,040 --> 00:48:28,340
I can clearly recall a message coming
through my communications center which

595
00:48:28,340 --> 00:48:34,300
basically said that a UFO did in fact
shut down several missile silos in

596
00:48:34,300 --> 00:48:35,300
Montana.

597
00:48:40,940 --> 00:48:45,520
I was on duty at Echo, which is our
squadron command post. We had strike

598
00:48:45,520 --> 00:48:49,540
respond to alarms from the missiles.
They were three to five miles away.

599
00:48:50,030 --> 00:48:53,730
And they said, sir, lack of a better
description of the flying saucer

600
00:48:53,730 --> 00:48:57,810
over that missile. And there's a beam of
reddish light going down to it.

601
00:48:59,450 --> 00:49:02,750
It had to be a data collection thing.
I'm sure they scanned the warhead or

602
00:49:02,750 --> 00:49:03,750
something.

603
00:49:08,170 --> 00:49:12,890
In 1980, I was reassigned from the
Pentagon to RAF Bentwaters as a deputy

604
00:49:12,890 --> 00:49:16,550
commander. At that time, Bentwaters was
one of the largest tactical fighter

605
00:49:16,550 --> 00:49:17,550
planes in the world.

606
00:49:18,380 --> 00:49:23,820
It was also the largest American nuclear
bomb storage depot in Europe.

607
00:49:24,040 --> 00:49:28,520
In December 1980, early in the morning,
several of our security policemen

608
00:49:28,520 --> 00:49:30,480
discovered strange lights in the forest.

609
00:49:30,900 --> 00:49:36,040
Expecting to find a crashed aircraft,
they came upon an unrecognizable object

610
00:49:36,040 --> 00:49:38,160
resting on the forest floor.

611
00:49:39,000 --> 00:49:43,420
They observed it for a period of time,
and it very quickly and silently

612
00:49:43,420 --> 00:49:44,420
vanished.

613
00:49:49,360 --> 00:49:54,140
Two nights later, Colonel Halt received
an urgent visit from the base security

614
00:49:54,140 --> 00:49:55,140
commander.

615
00:49:55,740 --> 00:49:57,080
He was white as a sheet.

616
00:49:57,640 --> 00:49:58,700
He said, it's back.

617
00:49:59,220 --> 00:50:00,480
He said, what's back?

618
00:50:00,720 --> 00:50:01,720
He said, the UFO.

619
00:50:03,580 --> 00:50:07,760
I took several security policemen with
me. I also had my small cassette

620
00:50:07,760 --> 00:50:09,580
I carried everywhere when I was on duty.

621
00:50:10,000 --> 00:50:11,680
What is it? We don't know, sir.

622
00:50:23,920 --> 00:50:26,380
One object approached us in very high
speed.

623
00:50:29,180 --> 00:50:29,700
We

624
00:50:29,700 --> 00:50:36,520
stood

625
00:50:36,520 --> 00:50:37,520
there in awe.

626
00:50:37,680 --> 00:50:38,700
Was this a warning?

627
00:50:39,160 --> 00:50:40,720
Was this an attempt to communicate?

628
00:50:41,680 --> 00:50:44,240
Was this a weapon or just a probe?

629
00:50:44,820 --> 00:50:48,180
Just as suddenly as it appeared, click,
it disappeared.

630
00:50:48,960 --> 00:50:49,960
We stood there.

631
00:50:52,080 --> 00:50:55,720
About that time, we noticed the other
object to the south was sending down

632
00:50:55,720 --> 00:50:59,500
about a mile, mile and a half away over
Woodbridge Base, and we had great

633
00:50:59,500 --> 00:51:03,260
difficulties communicating, but we were
able to discern that some of those beams

634
00:51:03,260 --> 00:51:06,540
were either falling into or near the
weapons storage area, and there's a

635
00:51:06,540 --> 00:51:07,540
deal of concern.

636
00:51:08,300 --> 00:51:13,780
I also found out later that both the
tower operators at Bentwaters saw an

637
00:51:13,780 --> 00:51:16,700
and picked it up under Bright 2 radar
and watched it.

638
00:51:17,000 --> 00:51:19,480
I was just sitting there, and I happened
to see a...

639
00:51:19,980 --> 00:51:25,500
A dot come on the scope, and it just
went like one dot at the beginning, then

640
00:51:25,500 --> 00:51:28,960
another dot, and another dot, and it was
gone. And then it made the immediate

641
00:51:28,960 --> 00:51:33,240
right -hand turn and came right towards
the base. Just absolutely phenomenal.

642
00:51:33,720 --> 00:51:36,640
It's not like any radar target I've ever
seen.

643
00:51:37,220 --> 00:51:42,800
Traveling at an extremely high rate of
speed, it passed over the control tower,

644
00:51:43,020 --> 00:51:47,020
and then it was an orangish color.

645
00:51:47,610 --> 00:51:51,970
Sort of popped into my mind at the time
that somebody's flying a basketball out

646
00:51:51,970 --> 00:51:58,850
here. There were lights around the
center of it. It was more like

647
00:51:58,850 --> 00:52:03,570
then you were seeing the light from the
inside, but it hovered momentarily,

648
00:52:03,690 --> 00:52:07,950
reversed its course, and went back out
at a high rate.

649
00:52:11,650 --> 00:52:16,510
Even more alarming incidents took place
on both sides of the Cold War.

650
00:52:18,830 --> 00:52:25,710
According to one secret Soviet
documents, a UFO hovered over a

651
00:52:25,710 --> 00:52:28,430
nuclear base for nearly an hour.

652
00:52:29,530 --> 00:52:35,230
Inexplicably, several missiles suddenly
switched to full combat readiness and

653
00:52:35,230 --> 00:52:39,270
began a launch sequence without any
authentication codes.

654
00:52:39,990 --> 00:52:45,970
After 15 heart -stopping seconds, the
countdown to a potential Armageddon

655
00:52:45,970 --> 00:52:49,020
ceased. as abruptly as it had started.

656
00:52:50,760 --> 00:52:55,220
As this object passed over the missile
site, we would start getting erratic

657
00:52:55,220 --> 00:52:56,620
indications on that missile.

658
00:52:56,920 --> 00:52:59,460
The bad thing was we also got a launch
indicator.

659
00:52:59,860 --> 00:53:02,840
Does that mean that the launch sequence
has been triggered?

660
00:53:03,060 --> 00:53:05,980
That means that the missile has received
a launch signal.

661
00:53:06,440 --> 00:53:09,820
The countdown had to be manually
aborted.

662
00:53:11,400 --> 00:53:15,700
We have UFOs in the air. These witnesses
are some of the most highly vetted

663
00:53:15,700 --> 00:53:20,360
military officers in charge of the
world's most devastating armaments.

664
00:53:21,400 --> 00:53:26,360
If what they're reporting is accurate,
then the pattern is hard to avoid.

665
00:53:28,100 --> 00:53:33,640
UFOs have been making incursions into
top security nuclear facilities decade

666
00:53:33,640 --> 00:53:34,980
after decade.

667
00:53:36,430 --> 00:53:40,230
To me, it's pretty clear. This is just,
we're shining a light on this. We're

668
00:53:40,230 --> 00:53:41,230
pointing it out.

669
00:53:41,730 --> 00:53:43,650
What are you people doing with nuclear
weapons?

670
00:54:30,510 --> 00:54:35,890
As the 90s dawned and the walls fell
down, it was as if humanity itself was

671
00:54:35,890 --> 00:54:39,810
demanding to be seen as one people and
one world.

672
00:54:40,090 --> 00:54:46,350
The Soviet Union had dissolved, and
history's spotlight began to shine on

673
00:54:46,390 --> 00:54:47,390
darkened corners.

674
00:54:48,470 --> 00:54:53,430
Different officials were looking for
ways to open dialogue with the West and

675
00:54:53,430 --> 00:54:58,470
embrace all the changes that were
underway in their country at the time.

676
00:54:58,920 --> 00:55:03,180
This is George Knapp in Moscow, the city
many are... Knapp's team was invited to

677
00:55:03,180 --> 00:55:08,020
Moscow by government and military
officials who were willing to share

678
00:55:08,260 --> 00:55:09,820
worth of UFO files.

679
00:55:11,740 --> 00:55:16,440
General Igor Maltsev, for seven years
commander of the entire Soviet air

680
00:55:16,440 --> 00:55:22,260
system, recalls a UFO flap over Moscow
in 1990, hundreds of visual and radar

681
00:55:22,260 --> 00:55:24,220
observations by military personnel.

682
00:55:24,640 --> 00:55:30,310
Maltsev confirms his standing order
was... Don't fire on the UFOs. March

683
00:55:30,790 --> 00:55:35,050
radar at the Leningrad airport detects
first one, then two, then three

684
00:55:35,050 --> 00:55:39,990
unidentified objects hovering over a
nuclear plant. From a dead stop, the UFO

685
00:55:39,990 --> 00:55:42,510
zipped away at 2 ,000 miles per hour.

686
00:55:43,070 --> 00:55:47,830
Jacques Vallée was one of few Westerners
to personally investigate the case by

687
00:55:47,830 --> 00:55:49,590
meeting with Russian sources firsthand.

688
00:55:49,890 --> 00:55:54,790
An object hovered near a nuclear power
plant in Voronezh, and a beam from that

689
00:55:54,790 --> 00:55:56,390
object melted the asphalt there.

690
00:55:56,780 --> 00:56:00,920
The intention was maybe we would be able
to find out from the Russians more

691
00:56:00,920 --> 00:56:05,200
about what the American government knows
about UFOs than we will ever learn from

692
00:56:05,200 --> 00:56:06,320
the American government itself.

693
00:56:06,740 --> 00:56:08,580
Governor, are you ready to take the
oath?

694
00:56:08,840 --> 00:56:14,940
I am. When a young, open -minded
president was sworn in, one of America's

695
00:56:14,940 --> 00:56:19,920
highly placed civilians saw a chance for
a new government transparency on the

696
00:56:19,920 --> 00:56:24,760
phenomenon. As a means of access to
people, to the wonders of nature.

697
00:56:25,260 --> 00:56:29,200
Heir to the power and influence of one
of the world's wealthiest families,

698
00:56:29,620 --> 00:56:35,880
Lawrence Rockefeller, philanthropist and
conservationist, also had a passionate

699
00:56:35,880 --> 00:56:42,720
interest in UFOs. His idea was to
approach the

700
00:56:42,720 --> 00:56:49,320
president with a plea for making
available the data

701
00:56:49,320 --> 00:56:52,240
that the government had on the subject.

702
00:56:52,970 --> 00:56:59,970
The first inclination by particularly
people in government is, you've got

703
00:56:59,970 --> 00:57:06,630
to be kidding me. You want me to risk my
career by getting deeply into the

704
00:57:06,630 --> 00:57:12,630
rabbit hole of talking about UFOs? And
so there's a tremendous resistance.

705
00:57:14,470 --> 00:57:18,910
Rockefeller met with President Clinton's
science advisor, Jack Gibbons, at the

706
00:57:18,910 --> 00:57:21,850
White House and persuaded him to take
action.

707
00:57:23,410 --> 00:57:27,790
Rockefeller was then asked to pick a
case that the White House should attempt

708
00:57:27,790 --> 00:57:28,790
declassify.

709
00:57:30,290 --> 00:57:35,370
He chose the 1947 Roswell incident,
noting, quote,

710
00:57:35,610 --> 00:57:39,770
Jack

711
00:57:39,770 --> 00:57:46,370
had actually gone to the Air Force.

712
00:57:48,380 --> 00:57:52,600
then -Secretary Widnall, who was the
Secretary of the Air Force, to take a

713
00:57:52,600 --> 00:57:56,740
particularly at the records around
Roswell, New Mexico.

714
00:57:57,220 --> 00:58:03,020
Dear Colonel Kavin, the General
Accounting Office seeks to fully explain

715
00:58:03,020 --> 00:58:09,220
claim that the U .S. government
recovered an alien spacecraft near

716
00:58:09,220 --> 00:58:15,320
Mexico in July 1947 and since that time
has covered up that fact.

717
00:58:16,840 --> 00:58:21,240
The Army Air Forces has announced that a
flying disc has been found and is now

718
00:58:21,240 --> 00:58:22,400
in the possession of the Army.

719
00:58:25,180 --> 00:58:30,720
According to my dad, there was a bad
thunderstorm the night before, and the

720
00:58:30,720 --> 00:58:34,280
day he was out on the ranch and he found
this debris.

721
00:58:34,760 --> 00:58:39,460
The disc landed at a ranch at Corona,
New Mexico, and the rancher turned it

722
00:58:39,460 --> 00:58:40,460
to the Air Force.

723
00:58:41,160 --> 00:58:45,240
Roswell was then home to the world's
only nuclear air wing.

724
00:58:46,040 --> 00:58:50,660
including the B -29 that had dropped the
first atomic bomb on Hiroshima.

725
00:58:52,400 --> 00:58:58,460
The base's chief intelligence officer,
Major Jesse Marcel, was dispatched to

726
00:58:58,460 --> 00:58:59,640
ranch to investigate.

727
00:59:01,540 --> 00:59:03,660
We had to follow the rancher out there.

728
00:59:03,900 --> 00:59:06,860
With just verbal directions, we know who
would have found it.

729
00:59:07,560 --> 00:59:12,880
Marcel and another officer were the
first military to arrive at the crash

730
00:59:13,500 --> 00:59:19,100
They came upon an expanse of
unrecognizable debris strewn across an

731
00:59:19,100 --> 00:59:21,500
size of a dozen football fields.

732
00:59:24,920 --> 00:59:26,380
There was so much of it.

733
00:59:26,600 --> 00:59:28,680
It was scattered over such a vast area.

734
00:59:29,160 --> 00:59:35,540
We found a piece of metal about a foot
and a half to two feet wide and about

735
00:59:35,540 --> 00:59:37,340
two or three feet long.

736
00:59:38,040 --> 00:59:41,580
It felt like you had nothing in your
hands. It wasn't any thicker than the

737
00:59:41,580 --> 00:59:42,760
out of a pack of cigarettes.

738
00:59:43,380 --> 00:59:48,180
The thing about that got me is that you
couldn't even bend it, you couldn't

739
00:59:48,180 --> 00:59:51,340
embed it, even though the sledgehammer
would bounce off of it.

740
00:59:52,740 --> 00:59:57,680
Marcel was ordered to immediately
transport the strange wreckage to Fort

741
00:59:57,680 --> 00:59:58,740
Army Airfield.

742
00:59:59,900 --> 01:00:05,560
There, Marcel was met by the commanding
general who told him to keep silent in

743
01:00:05,560 --> 01:00:07,360
the face of what was becoming...

744
01:00:07,600 --> 01:00:12,560
A media frenzy. They had a whole flock
of microphones there. They wanted some

745
01:00:12,560 --> 01:00:16,800
comments from me, but I wasn't that
good, but they didn't do that.

746
01:00:19,200 --> 01:00:25,040
Marcel was instead ordered to pose with
wood, foil, and rubber debris from a

747
01:00:25,040 --> 01:00:26,320
conventional weather balloon.

748
01:00:28,420 --> 01:00:30,520
All I could do is keep my mouth shut.

749
01:00:31,560 --> 01:00:36,620
And General Ramey is the one who told
the newspapers what it was and to forget

750
01:00:36,620 --> 01:00:37,479
about it.

751
01:00:37,480 --> 01:00:40,480
It was nothing more than a weather
observation balloon.

752
01:00:41,260 --> 01:00:43,500
Of course, which we both knew
differently.

753
01:00:44,700 --> 01:00:49,160
Colonel Thomas DuBose, who was also
ordered to pose with the fake debris,

754
01:00:49,400 --> 01:00:53,900
describes how an iron curtain of secrecy
slammed down.

755
01:00:54,490 --> 01:00:58,130
This is the highest priority you can
accept, and you will say nothing.

756
01:00:58,430 --> 01:01:03,310
More than top secret, as he said. Beyond
that, this is the story we're going to

757
01:01:03,310 --> 01:01:04,189
tell the public.

758
01:01:04,190 --> 01:01:08,350
It was a cover story, the balloon part
of it.

759
01:01:08,610 --> 01:01:13,470
In order, we don't have any more
inquiries about what we picked up on the

760
01:01:13,470 --> 01:01:14,448
desert.

761
01:01:14,450 --> 01:01:17,870
Congressman Schiff, what got you
interested in this subject per se?

762
01:01:18,110 --> 01:01:21,770
I started receiving letters a little
over two years ago from constituents.

763
01:01:22,590 --> 01:01:25,630
stating that they believe the government
was covering up what happened at

764
01:01:25,630 --> 01:01:30,890
Roswell. Many of them clearly believed
that it was in fact an extraterrestrial

765
01:01:30,890 --> 01:01:35,530
crash. The weather balloon story never
made sense because it was clearly an

766
01:01:35,530 --> 01:01:39,450
undisputed, in my mind, extra military
attention to this matter, from extra

767
01:01:39,450 --> 01:01:43,370
security around the crash scene to
special handling of whatever the debris

768
01:01:43,890 --> 01:01:48,830
That could fit a classified project. It
doesn't fit a weather balloon.

769
01:01:50,830 --> 01:01:55,590
In September 1994, the Air Force issued
its response.

770
01:01:56,050 --> 01:01:57,530
The Roswell Report.

771
01:01:57,870 --> 01:01:59,030
Case closed.

772
01:02:00,350 --> 01:02:05,730
The Air Force claimed it was a secret
project of weather balloons hung with

773
01:02:05,730 --> 01:02:10,250
kites and microphones to spy on Soviet
nuclear tests.

774
01:02:11,670 --> 01:02:13,570
Please roll the video.

775
01:02:13,970 --> 01:02:18,010
There's the famous box kite that became
the famous flying disc.

776
01:02:18,270 --> 01:02:20,130
The weather balloons that were on the...

777
01:02:20,510 --> 01:02:21,510
On the balloon train.

778
01:02:22,470 --> 01:02:27,650
Same rubber balloon, same foil box kite
as the original cover story.

779
01:02:28,170 --> 01:02:32,930
Only many of them strung together with
microphones dangling beneath.

780
01:02:34,470 --> 01:02:37,970
That's the tinfoil paper, rubber, and
sticks that they recovered in the desert

781
01:02:37,970 --> 01:02:39,110
near New Mexico in 1947.

782
01:02:40,950 --> 01:02:46,270
The Air Force, nearly 50 years later,
was basically telling the same tale.

783
01:02:47,470 --> 01:02:53,430
that the top security personnel of the
world's only atomic bombing wing really

784
01:02:53,430 --> 01:02:59,310
had mistaken this rubber, wood, and
tinfoil for a crashed flying saucer.

785
01:03:01,230 --> 01:03:04,650
Being an intelligence officer, I was
familiar with just about all materials

786
01:03:04,650 --> 01:03:07,850
in aircraft and in our air travel.

787
01:03:08,390 --> 01:03:09,830
This was nothing like that.

788
01:03:10,170 --> 01:03:14,310
It was not anything from this earth that
I'm quite sure of.

789
01:03:14,830 --> 01:03:16,570
My suspicion...

790
01:03:17,040 --> 01:03:23,520
is that the Roswell incident did happen
and something maybe not from our

791
01:03:23,520 --> 01:03:26,380
universe went down there.

792
01:03:26,780 --> 01:03:33,320
And we should allow the American people
to make a judgment on what that might

793
01:03:33,320 --> 01:03:39,180
have been by disclosing. I mean, this is
probably the most blatant case of

794
01:03:39,180 --> 01:03:42,740
overreaction to what is national
security.

795
01:03:43,020 --> 01:03:45,060
The public has a right to know.

796
01:03:48,049 --> 01:03:53,430
Rockefeller put together a briefing
document intended for world leaders with

797
01:03:53,430 --> 01:03:54,630
sobering observation.

798
01:03:56,590 --> 01:04:02,590
It is conceivable that even the
president himself is not fully briefed

799
01:04:02,590 --> 01:04:06,170
matters classified as above top secret.

800
01:04:07,870 --> 01:04:12,350
I did attempt to find out if there were
any secret government documents that

801
01:04:12,350 --> 01:04:14,270
reveal things. And if there were.

802
01:04:14,840 --> 01:04:18,720
They were concealed from me, too. I
wouldn't be the first president that

803
01:04:18,720 --> 01:04:21,760
underlings have lied to or that career
bureaucrats have waited out.

804
01:04:22,360 --> 01:04:28,600
But there may be some career person
sitting around somewhere hiding these

805
01:04:28,600 --> 01:04:32,720
secrets, even from elected presidents.
But if so, they successfully eluded me.

806
01:04:32,980 --> 01:04:35,940
And I'm almost embarrassed to tell you I
did try to find out.

807
01:04:41,290 --> 01:04:45,690
That was a beautiful one. Apollo
astronaut Edgar Mitchell, who had grown

808
01:04:45,690 --> 01:04:50,790
around Roswell, was an aerospace insider
with deep Pentagon connections.

809
01:04:52,670 --> 01:04:58,110
He became convinced there were UFO
secrets concealed from normal government

810
01:04:58,110 --> 01:04:59,110
channels.

811
01:04:59,370 --> 01:05:05,590
Well, if the accounts are to be
believed, yes, there have been ET

812
01:05:05,590 --> 01:05:07,690
There have been crashed craft.

813
01:05:08,070 --> 01:05:09,510
There have been...

814
01:05:10,430 --> 01:05:16,150
material and bodies recovered, and there
is some group of people somewhere

815
01:05:16,150 --> 01:05:22,950
that may or may not be associated with
government at this point, but

816
01:05:22,950 --> 01:05:26,290
certainly were at one time, that have
this knowledge.

817
01:05:41,840 --> 01:05:44,560
No one has proven there's nothing to it.

818
01:05:45,320 --> 01:05:50,860
No one's had the opportunity to prove
there's something to it. And that's what

819
01:05:50,860 --> 01:05:54,800
did. In 2007,

820
01:05:55,700 --> 01:06:01,160
the most powerful man in the Senate,
Majority Leader Harry Reid, persuaded

821
01:06:01,160 --> 01:06:06,860
colleagues, Senators Ted Stevens and
Daniel Inouye, to secretly allocate

822
01:06:06,860 --> 01:06:11,960
millions in Defense Department funds to
investigate UFOs.

823
01:06:13,020 --> 01:06:18,660
The covert program operated from the
tail end of the Bush presidency through

824
01:06:18,660 --> 01:06:23,280
Obama administration and into Donald
Trump's first year in office.

825
01:06:26,320 --> 01:06:30,020
In December of 2017, the lid blew off.

826
01:06:35,370 --> 01:06:40,530
At long last, the government was
admitting a modern -day program to

827
01:06:40,530 --> 01:06:47,490
UFOs and released startling official
evidence, including videotapes from

828
01:06:47,490 --> 01:06:49,510
the cockpits of military aircraft.

829
01:06:51,330 --> 01:06:56,370
One of the key authors of the Times
story was investigative journalist and

830
01:06:56,370 --> 01:06:58,270
-selling author Leslie Kane.

831
01:06:58,710 --> 01:07:02,210
She went to Washington to meet with Luis
Elizondo.

832
01:07:02,650 --> 01:07:07,410
who had just resigned from his position
as head of the secret Pentagon UFO

833
01:07:07,410 --> 01:07:08,410
program.

834
01:07:09,090 --> 01:07:11,970
I was invited to this meeting. They
wanted me to meet Mr.

835
01:07:12,210 --> 01:07:13,870
Elizondo to see what could happen.

836
01:07:14,270 --> 01:07:18,310
Objects that are moving so fast, and yet
we don't see an ionization trail in the

837
01:07:18,310 --> 01:07:21,450
air, and you don't hear a sonic boom.
How is that possible?

838
01:07:23,110 --> 01:07:27,230
Elizondo's colleagues took her aside to
reveal some extraordinary documentation

839
01:07:27,230 --> 01:07:29,330
related to the program.

840
01:07:30,570 --> 01:07:34,090
I wasn't allowed to take anything with
me. I mean the most important evidence

841
01:07:34,090 --> 01:07:38,250
that was shared with me at the meeting
regarding the phenomenon itself were the

842
01:07:38,250 --> 01:07:39,250
videos.

843
01:07:42,930 --> 01:07:46,130
I knew

844
01:07:46,130 --> 01:07:53,130
this was breaking news for the front
page of the New York Times.

845
01:08:04,660 --> 01:08:09,300
My co -author, Ralph Blumenthal, and I
set up a meeting with Mark Mazzetti and

846
01:08:09,300 --> 01:08:10,980
said we had this explosive story.

847
01:08:11,680 --> 01:08:15,000
Sat down with him in the New York office
of the New York Times and we brought in

848
01:08:15,000 --> 01:08:18,740
all the documents. These are the videos.
Here's other documents that show the

849
01:08:18,740 --> 01:08:19,920
existence of the program.

850
01:08:20,160 --> 01:08:23,399
And here's what they've studied and
here's what they've learned. And here's

851
01:08:23,399 --> 01:08:25,300
letter from Harry Reid about the
program.

852
01:08:27,170 --> 01:08:32,109
Elizondo's colleague, the former Deputy
Assistant Secretary of Defense for

853
01:08:32,109 --> 01:08:37,109
Intelligence, Christopher Mellon,
managed to obtain the tapes from the

854
01:08:37,109 --> 01:08:40,609
and chose the New York Times to break
the story.

855
01:08:41,189 --> 01:08:47,450
I received the videos, the now famous
videos, in the Pentagon parking lot from

856
01:08:47,450 --> 01:08:50,770
Defense Department official. I still
have the originals in the packaging.

857
01:08:51,229 --> 01:08:55,689
This is a case where somebody bent the
rules a little bit.

858
01:08:56,200 --> 01:09:02,120
And they did so for the larger good and
we're absolutely all better off because

859
01:09:02,120 --> 01:09:02,919
of it.

860
01:09:02,920 --> 01:09:07,660
In the end, I have to say, I was still
extraordinarily disappointed with the

861
01:09:07,660 --> 01:09:13,779
York Times because they focused on this
small AATIP program.

862
01:09:14,100 --> 01:09:19,600
And the real story in my mind, at least,
should have been these things are real.

863
01:09:19,899 --> 01:09:20,899
They're here.

864
01:09:21,140 --> 01:09:22,840
This is happening now.

865
01:09:26,250 --> 01:09:31,470
One of the Pentagon cases reported by
the New York Times was an encounter by

866
01:09:31,470 --> 01:09:36,630
naval aircraft about 200 miles off the
coast of San Diego, California.

867
01:09:37,250 --> 01:09:41,170
5 ,500 people that were on the Nimitz in
2004 when this happened, and I

868
01:09:41,170 --> 01:09:45,810
guarantee every single one of them knows
that this event happened. That's a

869
01:09:45,810 --> 01:09:47,850
whole air wing, that's Mount Fuji,
that's Japan.

870
01:09:48,229 --> 01:09:53,450
Commander David Fravor was leading a
training exercise from the USS Nimitz

871
01:09:53,450 --> 01:09:54,690
Carrier Strike Group.

872
01:09:55,230 --> 01:10:00,150
when he was abruptly ordered to
investigate an unknown target that had

873
01:10:00,150 --> 01:10:02,130
on one of the ship's radar scopes.

874
01:10:02,910 --> 01:10:06,070
We're going to suspend the training. We
have real -world tasking. So we're like,

875
01:10:06,150 --> 01:10:07,150
okay, cool.

876
01:10:07,450 --> 01:10:13,910
He and another F -18 Super Hornet, each
carrying two airmen, zoomed toward the

877
01:10:13,910 --> 01:10:14,910
coordinates.

878
01:10:15,230 --> 01:10:19,410
Myself and my WIZO and the other pilot
and the WIZO in the back seat of that

879
01:10:19,410 --> 01:10:20,450
airplane. So there's four of us.

880
01:10:22,280 --> 01:10:27,200
When they arrived, they first saw what
appeared to be a large object slightly

881
01:10:27,200 --> 01:10:33,020
below the surface of the ocean with a
strange oval -shaped craft darting

882
01:10:33,020 --> 01:10:38,400
in the air just above it. If you picture
a tic -tac that's about 40 feet long,

883
01:10:38,560 --> 01:10:41,940
you know, round on both ends, no rivets,
no metal, smooth white.

884
01:10:42,670 --> 01:10:46,550
It was white. It was just smooth, no
wings, no propulsion, no windows.

885
01:10:46,830 --> 01:10:49,470
It didn't matter which way it was
pointing because as it was moving over

886
01:10:49,470 --> 01:10:52,730
water, it would go, you know, it never
turned. It never changed its

887
01:10:52,730 --> 01:10:54,410
axis. It went four half left, right.

888
01:10:54,630 --> 01:10:55,670
It was just doing this.

889
01:10:56,370 --> 01:10:59,110
And I said, hey, I'm going to go check
that out.

890
01:11:04,270 --> 01:11:07,390
All of a sudden, you just see it turn
its body and go, whoop, and start coming

891
01:11:07,390 --> 01:11:10,470
up at you. You go, that was rather
interesting.

892
01:11:11,200 --> 01:11:14,400
We're just looking at it. We're doing
this. We're looking at it.

893
01:11:14,740 --> 01:11:17,280
We're looking at it. We're looking at
it. We go around all the way around the

894
01:11:17,280 --> 01:11:18,580
outside of the circle 180 degrees.

895
01:11:18,940 --> 01:11:21,300
Well, I know where he's going, so I'll
just go over there.

896
01:11:26,360 --> 01:11:28,500
And this thing goes, and it's gone.

897
01:11:28,720 --> 01:11:30,960
I mean, literally that fast.

898
01:11:32,080 --> 01:11:33,080
Gone.

899
01:11:34,300 --> 01:11:37,580
You can think about what we're saying
like, holy shit, what the is that?

900
01:11:38,770 --> 01:11:40,670
You know, and then there's a lot of,
dude, what the?

901
01:11:41,610 --> 01:11:45,790
Did you guys see that? Do you guys see
it? And they're like, it's gone. We

902
01:11:45,790 --> 01:11:46,790
see shit.

903
01:11:47,750 --> 01:11:52,850
Nothing accelerates that fast. You're
talking, you know, something that not

904
01:11:52,850 --> 01:11:59,770
accelerated beyond anything that we had
seen, but it just was, the

905
01:11:59,770 --> 01:12:03,770
controller comes up and says, hey,
you're not going to believe this, but

906
01:12:03,770 --> 01:12:05,410
thing is back at your cat point.

907
01:12:06,750 --> 01:12:12,330
meaning the object had instantly
reappeared at the precise secret

908
01:12:12,330 --> 01:12:14,890
the fleet's critical aerial defense
zone.

909
01:12:16,330 --> 01:12:18,210
It obviously had some awareness.

910
01:12:18,490 --> 01:12:19,890
See, it knew where we were going.

911
01:12:21,630 --> 01:12:23,510
I'm going to make the hair on the back
of your neck stand up.

912
01:12:24,870 --> 01:12:27,450
I actually told my back's here. I said,
I don't know about you, I'm pretty

913
01:12:27,450 --> 01:12:28,450
weirded out.

914
01:12:32,300 --> 01:12:37,140
More jets equipped with the Navy's most
advanced radar visual tracking system

915
01:12:37,140 --> 01:12:43,000
were scrambled, this time capturing the
object on video.

916
01:12:43,440 --> 01:12:45,580
First thing he gets is a little blip on
the radar.

917
01:12:46,220 --> 01:12:50,900
He puts his cursors over it, and he
tries to grab a lock on it.

918
01:12:53,340 --> 01:12:57,920
Basically, when you take a lock, you
tell the radar, look at that location

919
01:12:57,920 --> 01:13:00,500
stare at it and put all your energy on
that point.

920
01:13:01,100 --> 01:13:04,700
Well, as soon as it does it, the radar
gets indications that it's being jammed

921
01:13:04,700 --> 01:13:06,120
by the object it's trying to lock.

922
01:13:09,300 --> 01:13:13,840
The infrared sees differing
temperatures, so the tic -tac is

923
01:13:13,840 --> 01:13:14,840
than the air around it.

924
01:13:15,260 --> 01:13:17,460
It doesn't have to be by much, but it's
going to appear white.

925
01:13:18,420 --> 01:13:19,800
They're driving straight at it.

926
01:13:20,960 --> 01:13:22,300
It's just kind of hovering there.

927
01:13:23,260 --> 01:13:25,820
And then it goes poof, and it takes off
off the side.

928
01:13:29,260 --> 01:13:30,300
I just don't know.

929
01:13:30,990 --> 01:13:34,290
I doubt that we have developed that
technology.

930
01:13:36,870 --> 01:13:43,470
I interviewed three of the four aviators
who were with Dave during that

931
01:13:43,470 --> 01:13:49,610
encounter. And it was readily apparent
to everyone involved that that vehicle

932
01:13:49,610 --> 01:13:53,170
had what they call dominant battle space
awareness.

933
01:13:53,750 --> 01:13:58,090
It was in control of that engagement
from the outset.

934
01:13:58,370 --> 01:14:00,130
There was no question

935
01:14:00,970 --> 01:14:04,470
that it completely outmatched our
frontline fighters.

936
01:14:04,990 --> 01:14:10,270
I served on the Special Access Program
Oversight Committee, so I had access to

937
01:14:10,270 --> 01:14:13,890
all of the black programs in those days.
We know perfectly well there's nothing

938
01:14:13,890 --> 01:14:16,910
like that behind the scenes or even on
the drawing boards.

939
01:14:19,850 --> 01:14:24,890
Senator Harry Reid, who instigated the
secret Pentagon UFO program...

940
01:14:25,350 --> 01:14:29,710
confirmed what nuclear launch officers
have been reporting for decades.

941
01:14:30,330 --> 01:14:31,850
There's more than one up there.

942
01:14:32,390 --> 01:14:36,810
UFOs have interfered with our country's
most powerful weapons.

943
01:14:37,250 --> 01:14:42,530
If they had been called upon by the
president to launch, they couldn't have

944
01:14:42,530 --> 01:14:48,890
it. Did you have anybody in the Defense
Department, the Pentagon, pull you

945
01:14:48,890 --> 01:14:50,630
aside, bend your ear and say...

946
01:14:52,390 --> 01:14:56,770
Why are you doing this? They did
everything they could to stop the

947
01:14:56,770 --> 01:15:01,090
going forward. They gave the person that
came to me initially such a bad time.

948
01:15:01,450 --> 01:15:04,830
He's fortunate to have hung on to his
job because people tried to get rid of

949
01:15:04,830 --> 01:15:08,130
because they wanted nothing to do with
this.

950
01:15:08,530 --> 01:15:15,090
The Defense Intelligence Agency was one
of the worst. They drug their feet, even

951
01:15:15,090 --> 01:15:18,230
though there was one of their senior
scientists thought they should look at

952
01:15:18,230 --> 01:15:20,750
this. And remember, all we're saying.

953
01:15:21,710 --> 01:15:27,690
Nobody has to agree that why it's there,
but shouldn't we at least be spending

954
01:15:27,690 --> 01:15:29,890
some money to study all these
phenomenon?

955
01:15:30,610 --> 01:15:32,130
Shouldn't we study the stuff?

956
01:15:32,750 --> 01:15:34,090
The answer is yes.

957
01:15:34,350 --> 01:15:38,910
And that's all this was about. And why
the federal government all these years

958
01:15:38,910 --> 01:15:44,430
has covered up, put brake pads on
everything, stopped it.

959
01:15:44,770 --> 01:15:48,530
I think it's very, very bad for our
country.

960
01:15:54,160 --> 01:15:58,660
I interviewed Gordon Cooper, Mercury
astronaut Gordon Cooper, back in the

961
01:15:58,680 --> 01:16:04,620
Cooper said on camera that there was a
landed UFO at circa 1957 at Edwards Air

962
01:16:04,620 --> 01:16:09,500
Force Base. His camera crew captured the
filming of this object, and he

963
01:16:09,500 --> 01:16:14,680
presented this to the higher -ups, and
eventually a courier jet came in from

964
01:16:14,680 --> 01:16:18,100
Washington. He handed the footage over,
which was good. He viewed it. That's the

965
01:16:18,100 --> 01:16:19,340
last he saw of it. Exactly.

966
01:16:19,600 --> 01:16:22,980
Did you know where that footage went of
the flying saucer that landed on the...

967
01:16:23,370 --> 01:16:25,910
I went to Washington. That's all that I
know.

968
01:16:26,270 --> 01:16:29,070
Did you ever keep in touch with anybody
about it or discuss it? How would I keep

969
01:16:29,070 --> 01:16:30,490
in touch with anybody about it?

970
01:16:31,450 --> 01:16:35,390
There's no way within the military or
within the government of keeping track

971
01:16:35,390 --> 01:16:36,710
something that is classified.

972
01:16:37,230 --> 01:16:38,810
Did you try to go after stuff like this?

973
01:16:39,830 --> 01:16:40,830
We did.

974
01:16:41,390 --> 01:16:42,269
It's there.

975
01:16:42,270 --> 01:16:48,490
Are you saying that there's some
evidence that still hasn't seen the

976
01:16:48,490 --> 01:16:49,490
day?

977
01:16:50,920 --> 01:16:53,200
I'm saying most of it hasn't seen the
light of day.

978
01:16:58,960 --> 01:17:03,980
Astronaut Cooper had spoken with the
president at a cabinet meeting. He

979
01:17:03,980 --> 01:17:05,220
this with Secretary Cohen.

980
01:17:05,640 --> 01:17:11,140
And then Cohen's office called me and
asked me to pursue this and chase it

981
01:17:15,500 --> 01:17:20,200
The Air Force colonel that I spoke with
got very frustrated, and when I asked

982
01:17:20,200 --> 01:17:24,120
him what happened to all of these
records, he said, well, that was all

983
01:17:24,120 --> 01:17:28,820
up or thrown out to save space,
something like that. That sounded

984
01:17:28,820 --> 01:17:29,820
that's what he told me.

985
01:17:32,300 --> 01:17:39,060
If there is some recovered debris, say,
it is so deeply buried

986
01:17:39,060 --> 01:17:41,840
and squirreled away that...

987
01:17:43,340 --> 01:17:47,380
It's outside of those normal oversight
processes, and that's where there's a

988
01:17:47,380 --> 01:17:48,380
problem in this area.

989
01:17:55,980 --> 01:18:02,360
Dr. Jacques Vallée has collected
purported metal debris from UFO cases

990
01:18:02,360 --> 01:18:08,800
far back as 1947 that experts are
analyzing in a state -of -the -art

991
01:18:09,340 --> 01:18:11,100
The breakthrough has come with the
invention.

992
01:18:11,760 --> 01:18:15,940
of a machine that enables us to look at
the atomic structure.

993
01:18:16,260 --> 01:18:20,900
And at that point, the atomic structure
is impossible to fake.

994
01:18:21,140 --> 01:18:24,920
This device is a multi -parameter ion
beam imager.

995
01:18:25,200 --> 01:18:31,400
Dr. Gary Nolan, a Stanford
microbiologist, is using a revolutionary

996
01:18:31,400 --> 01:18:36,440
-dimensional imaging device to analyze
the samples right down to their

997
01:18:36,440 --> 01:18:37,580
individual atoms.

998
01:18:38,920 --> 01:18:39,818
When Dr.

999
01:18:39,820 --> 01:18:44,360
Nolan placed some of the fragments in
the vacuum chamber of his instrument, he

1000
01:18:44,360 --> 01:18:49,940
was astonished to find their composition
was unlike any known metal. Just one

1001
01:18:49,940 --> 01:18:53,900
spot and the isotopic composition all
the way across.

1002
01:18:54,300 --> 01:18:59,420
No matter where he looked in the
sample's jumble of elements, whether

1003
01:18:59,880 --> 01:19:05,940
iron, nickel, or titanium, the ratio of
isotopes didn't make any sense.

1004
01:19:06,680 --> 01:19:10,680
If you're talking about an advanced
material from an advanced civilization,

1005
01:19:11,120 --> 01:19:14,880
you're talking about something that I'll
just call it an ultramaterial, right?

1006
01:19:14,960 --> 01:19:20,580
It's something which has properties
where somebody is putting it together,

1007
01:19:20,660 --> 01:19:26,860
again, at the atomic scale. So we're
building our world with 80

1008
01:19:26,860 --> 01:19:32,980
elements. Somebody else is building the
world with 253 different

1009
01:19:32,980 --> 01:19:33,980
isotopes.

1010
01:19:36,170 --> 01:19:41,910
I intend to use the information to try
to build something, to try to understand

1011
01:19:41,910 --> 01:19:44,330
a physical principle that we don't know
today.

1012
01:19:44,570 --> 01:19:46,470
This material was manufactured.

1013
01:19:46,870 --> 01:19:48,270
It's not natural.

1014
01:19:48,590 --> 01:19:54,970
It's not natural to the materials that
we have around us in the lab or on the

1015
01:19:54,970 --> 01:20:01,030
Earth. It does not mean that it was
necessarily made someplace in outer

1016
01:20:01,210 --> 01:20:04,610
It just means that it was manufactured
spatially.

1017
01:20:05,070 --> 01:20:09,710
for a particular purpose that we don't
understand and we want to understand it

1018
01:20:09,710 --> 01:20:17,750
there

1019
01:20:17,750 --> 01:20:24,490
is an immense array of unanswered
questions what we observe some of these

1020
01:20:24,490 --> 01:20:25,750
craft doing

1021
01:20:26,680 --> 01:20:32,300
Think about the possibilities, what we
may discover technologically, how we

1022
01:20:32,300 --> 01:20:36,120
might solve the energy crisis, how we
might raise our standards of living.

1023
01:20:38,120 --> 01:20:42,600
There is an urgent need, in my view, to
get to the bottom of it. We don't know

1024
01:20:42,600 --> 01:20:47,380
the origin of these vehicles, nor do we
understand the intent of whoever is

1025
01:20:47,380 --> 01:20:49,020
controlling them.

1026
01:20:51,470 --> 01:20:57,610
There are cases that seem to go beyond
encounters with an advanced technology

1027
01:20:57,610 --> 01:21:00,250
contact with an engaged intelligence.

1028
01:21:01,210 --> 01:21:04,250
Papua New Guinea, June 1959.

1029
01:21:04,890 --> 01:21:11,590
An Australian missionary spots a large
disc hovering just 200 feet off the

1030
01:21:11,590 --> 01:21:14,950
ground while standing with 38 other
people.

1031
01:21:15,170 --> 01:21:20,030
This solid -looking object, and can you
imagine?

1032
01:21:20,640 --> 01:21:26,140
what it's like to look up in the sky and
see some figures up there.

1033
01:21:27,160 --> 01:21:33,980
All were amazed to see four small
occupants dressed in what looked like

1034
01:21:33,980 --> 01:21:34,980
diving suits.

1035
01:21:35,400 --> 01:21:42,060
Figures walking about on top and not the
slightest noise

1036
01:21:42,060 --> 01:21:45,620
whatsoever. And so we waved.

1037
01:21:46,480 --> 01:21:47,700
Wouldn't it be wonderful?

1038
01:21:48,360 --> 01:21:51,460
if we could get this object down onto
the playing field.

1039
01:21:52,040 --> 01:21:57,260
And as we waved, wondering whether we'd
get some recognition and whether perhaps

1040
01:21:57,260 --> 01:22:01,580
they would understand what we wanted,
they waved back.

1041
01:22:03,160 --> 01:22:08,960
The encounter lasted several hours
before the object abruptly departed.

1042
01:22:09,580 --> 01:22:16,120
There was this amazingly incredible
speed that the whole craft...

1043
01:22:16,320 --> 01:22:21,980
disappeared to nothing across the bay in
a matter of a second or so.

1044
01:22:26,120 --> 01:22:33,120
In 1994, three days of sightings across
Zimbabwe culminated in what some

1045
01:22:33,120 --> 01:22:37,460
believe is the most significant close
encounter in modern history.

1046
01:22:39,200 --> 01:22:44,140
Hundreds of people today phoned the ZBC
and the BBC correspondent in Harare

1047
01:22:44,140 --> 01:22:50,500
saying they sighted an unidentifying
flying object last night with some

1048
01:22:50,500 --> 01:22:51,560
eyewitness reports.

1049
01:22:52,820 --> 01:22:56,580
It almost seemed to be under the clouds.
As it came past, I noticed there was no

1050
01:22:56,580 --> 01:22:58,580
noise, and that's when I thought, well,
there's something very odd here.

1051
01:22:59,560 --> 01:23:00,560
It was quite amazing.

1052
01:23:00,740 --> 01:23:01,740
It was beautiful.

1053
01:23:02,040 --> 01:23:05,900
They are saying that Jesus is passing
through Africa.

1054
01:23:06,740 --> 01:23:07,920
That's what they are saying.

1055
01:23:19,240 --> 01:23:23,260
We interviewed about 64 children in
front of the camera.

1056
01:23:23,540 --> 01:23:25,100
UFO story, that happens.

1057
01:23:25,480 --> 01:23:27,480
Just say exactly what you want to say,
OK?

1058
01:23:28,200 --> 01:23:34,300
Well, I was running and playing and then
I saw this maroon colour in the sky.

1059
01:23:34,660 --> 01:23:38,800
Why don't we follow it? We saw this,
like, silver thing down there.

1060
01:23:39,040 --> 01:23:43,800
It was a silver oval thing that flew
past really slowly.

1061
01:23:44,280 --> 01:23:48,540
I saw the bigger one and the spaceship,
like four or five of them. It was red,

1062
01:23:48,640 --> 01:23:49,579
green, and yellow.

1063
01:23:49,580 --> 01:23:53,120
It was a big ship. It had these lights,
these patterns, and it flew.

1064
01:23:53,440 --> 01:23:56,100
I thought, no, it's not a UFO.

1065
01:23:56,340 --> 01:23:58,960
And then I looked carefully at it, and I
thought, maybe.

1066
01:24:04,700 --> 01:24:09,840
Dozens of children said that one or more
of the disk -shaped objects landed just

1067
01:24:09,840 --> 01:24:11,900
beyond the far edge of their playground.

1068
01:24:15,340 --> 01:24:19,780
The next thing they knew, something was
standing next to it.

1069
01:24:23,640 --> 01:24:28,820
We saw him standing by the silver thing,
and he had big eyes.

1070
01:24:32,060 --> 01:24:38,040
He had a big head and big black eyes and
was dressed in a black bodysuit.

1071
01:24:38,340 --> 01:24:40,020
They were wearing pure black.

1072
01:24:40,340 --> 01:24:43,520
And I came down and I saw the funny man
with his eyes here.

1073
01:24:44,060 --> 01:24:47,840
And I saw a spaceship and there were a
few little ones around it.

1074
01:24:53,880 --> 01:24:56,060
How far away were you when you saw him?

1075
01:24:56,400 --> 01:25:01,300
Not very far. Not very far. About a
metre away. A metre away. That close?

1076
01:25:01,560 --> 01:25:02,560
Yes.

1077
01:25:04,780 --> 01:25:06,180
And how big was the figure?

1078
01:25:06,800 --> 01:25:09,220
It was about as big as a grade six.

1079
01:25:09,800 --> 01:25:13,020
I believe that the children...

1080
01:25:13,500 --> 01:25:14,500
Did see something.

1081
01:25:14,960 --> 01:25:19,540
I believe them, because normally
children don't lie.

1082
01:25:19,800 --> 01:25:21,820
I've always taught my children seeing is
believing.

1083
01:25:22,060 --> 01:25:26,500
Unfortunately, I didn't see, so... This

1084
01:25:26,500 --> 01:25:33,480
alleged encounter caught the attention
of Pulitzer Prize

1085
01:25:33,480 --> 01:25:37,040
-winning Harvard psychiatrist Dr. John
Mack.

1086
01:25:37,340 --> 01:25:41,460
Seemed that he was looking at all of us.
What did it feel like when he was

1087
01:25:41,460 --> 01:25:42,460
looking at you?

1088
01:25:42,510 --> 01:25:43,510
I felt scared.

1089
01:25:43,810 --> 01:25:46,730
It felt scary? What was scary about it?

1090
01:25:47,830 --> 01:25:53,990
Well, I felt scared because I've never
seen such a person like that before.

1091
01:25:54,250 --> 01:26:01,010
And I saw this person, and it had big
eyes.

1092
01:26:01,470 --> 01:26:03,450
That's all I saw about it, big eyes.

1093
01:26:03,810 --> 01:26:09,530
They had short legs and quite a long
top, with a big head and eyes that are

1094
01:26:09,530 --> 01:26:10,690
bigger than ours.

1095
01:26:11,360 --> 01:26:13,160
How much bigger than ours?

1096
01:26:13,780 --> 01:26:17,460
Four or five times the size. Four or
five times the size of ours.

1097
01:26:20,180 --> 01:26:23,300
So then I was looking at him, right?
Then he was looking at me back.

1098
01:26:23,540 --> 01:26:26,940
I couldn't just keep on looking at him
so I had to stop and I looked sideways.

1099
01:26:27,340 --> 01:26:29,900
But I was looking straight into his
eyes.

1100
01:26:30,500 --> 01:26:31,980
Well, he never said anything.

1101
01:26:32,540 --> 01:26:34,880
Just that the face is the eye.

1102
01:26:35,690 --> 01:26:40,890
Maybe they're trying to communicate with
us, show us something which we don't

1103
01:26:40,890 --> 01:26:41,749
know about.

1104
01:26:41,750 --> 01:26:48,490
I think they want people to know that
we're

1105
01:26:48,490 --> 01:26:53,210
actually making harm on the world and we
mustn't get too acknowledged.

1106
01:26:53,750 --> 01:26:55,530
We don't look after the planet.

1107
01:26:56,010 --> 01:27:02,710
All the trees will just go down and
there will be no air and people will be

1108
01:27:02,710 --> 01:27:04,450
dying. Is this an idea?

1109
01:27:05,500 --> 01:27:12,320
You have had before, or did this idea
come to you when you had this

1110
01:27:14,720 --> 01:27:16,360
When I had this experience.

1111
01:27:17,580 --> 01:27:23,640
For the first time in nearly 20 years,
the Ariel schoolchildren gathered from

1112
01:27:23,640 --> 01:27:28,240
the four corners of the world to talk to
each other about the experience they

1113
01:27:28,240 --> 01:27:29,840
shared that September morning.

1114
01:27:30,080 --> 01:27:31,080
I remember.

1115
01:27:31,560 --> 01:27:34,760
One they all still struggle to
understand.

1116
01:27:35,060 --> 01:27:38,160
You know that it's moving, but you... I
stand by what I saw.

1117
01:27:38,880 --> 01:27:44,720
There was no reason for any of us to
make that up.

1118
01:27:45,760 --> 01:27:47,620
I've not spoken to anybody about it.

1119
01:27:48,160 --> 01:27:52,840
Not because I'm not proud of it, but
because I don't want the stigma.

1120
01:27:55,080 --> 01:27:58,120
So it's something that I've had to deal
with.

1121
01:27:59,130 --> 01:28:00,750
for 19 and a half years.

1122
01:28:02,710 --> 01:28:06,170
I don't want to say I felt like I knew
it, but I knew that I didn't have to be

1123
01:28:06,170 --> 01:28:06,889
afraid of it.

1124
01:28:06,890 --> 01:28:11,890
They took us back to the moment of
contact. Exactly how I felt, exactly.

1125
01:28:11,890 --> 01:28:14,530
details still seared into memory.

1126
01:28:14,990 --> 01:28:20,170
I was with one of the other girls and
saying to her, this is amazing.

1127
01:28:20,710 --> 01:28:22,890
We all were just stopped in our tracks.

1128
01:28:24,910 --> 01:28:26,890
A little man appeared.

1129
01:28:27,980 --> 01:28:29,440
On top of the actual craft.

1130
01:28:29,900 --> 01:28:34,760
And that moment for me was very distinct
because I was like, that's not human.

1131
01:28:35,060 --> 01:28:40,080
I was just completely engulfed in these
eyes. The eyes. And in that moment,

1132
01:28:40,220 --> 01:28:43,900
however long it was, because I have no
idea of the time frame, it was

1133
01:28:43,900 --> 01:28:46,060
mesmerizing. There was no talking.

1134
01:28:47,920 --> 01:28:49,700
It's all just images in the head.

1135
01:28:53,120 --> 01:28:54,120
Telepathic communication.

1136
01:28:55,980 --> 01:29:00,420
They were trying to communicate, trying
to tell us something. It was something

1137
01:29:00,420 --> 01:29:01,780
to do with the environment.

1138
01:29:02,240 --> 01:29:05,340
I kept getting these thoughts and ideas
in my mind of technology.

1139
01:29:05,900 --> 01:29:08,380
Technology is not helping, technology is
bad.

1140
01:29:11,680 --> 01:29:16,760
And we're going down a wrong path and we
have to start recognising that what

1141
01:29:16,760 --> 01:29:19,320
we're doing is detrimental and we need
to make changes.

1142
01:29:19,620 --> 01:29:23,100
And I don't know what to do with that
or...

1143
01:29:25,770 --> 01:29:30,390
They were reaching out to us. It was as
if they wanted us to go with them.

1144
01:29:32,130 --> 01:29:37,870
At that moment, that was kind of when I
snapped right out of the trance.

1145
01:29:39,210 --> 01:29:44,090
As soon as I broke contact, all of those
feelings, technology, the bad, the

1146
01:29:44,090 --> 01:29:48,490
horribleness that was happening and
going around my body at the time went.

1147
01:29:48,910 --> 01:29:52,930
It's making me a bit anxious being back
here. I can feel it right now.

1148
01:29:53,510 --> 01:29:54,750
I was scared.

1149
01:29:56,080 --> 01:30:03,000
They came running up here in such a
panic, screaming, screaming, and the

1150
01:30:03,000 --> 01:30:04,000
can't make that up.

1151
01:30:05,400 --> 01:30:10,280
So I was there when they were
interviewing them and saw the way they

1152
01:30:10,280 --> 01:30:14,200
was just a huge big mess and muddle up
and just people everywhere.

1153
01:30:14,980 --> 01:30:19,520
Just ask them questions straight off
without explaining to the children what

1154
01:30:19,520 --> 01:30:22,640
they were doing and why they were doing
it. It was chaos.

1155
01:30:23,340 --> 01:30:28,980
in terms of the media frenzy that was
going on and us being so young and not

1156
01:30:28,980 --> 01:30:33,420
even being allowed time to comprehend
what we had seen.

1157
01:30:34,860 --> 01:30:38,480
Our teachers certainly didn't believe
us. That was a big deal because we had

1158
01:30:38,480 --> 01:30:39,700
continue going to school there.

1159
01:30:43,600 --> 01:30:48,620
We went back one last time to the Ariel
School to meet with Judy Bates, a

1160
01:30:48,620 --> 01:30:52,040
teacher at the time of the incident and
now the headmistress.

1161
01:30:52,960 --> 01:30:56,860
something was weighing on her that she
wanted to tell the children.

1162
01:30:57,860 --> 01:31:01,140
Yeah, I said I wanted to apologize. I
should have taken more notice.

1163
01:31:02,020 --> 01:31:06,860
But I didn't. I was more concerned about
me and not them and what was going on

1164
01:31:06,860 --> 01:31:08,980
in my own sort of experience.

1165
01:31:10,060 --> 01:31:11,240
And that's what, yeah.

1166
01:31:15,680 --> 01:31:19,500
And if you could summarize in just one
sentence.

1167
01:31:20,000 --> 01:31:26,280
what took place September 1994 here at
Ariel School, Rua Zimbabwe, what would

1168
01:31:26,280 --> 01:31:27,280
you say?

1169
01:31:27,940 --> 01:31:29,180
Aliens visited us.

1170
01:31:30,160 --> 01:31:31,620
And that's about it, yeah.

1171
01:31:32,040 --> 01:31:34,960
And that's why if you believe it, you
believe it. If you don't, well...

1172
01:31:34,960 --> 01:31:41,920
We find ourselves confronted

1173
01:31:41,920 --> 01:31:45,620
with something that challenges our very
understanding of reality.

1174
01:31:47,020 --> 01:31:52,680
We may be sharing this fragile blue
-green oasis with an unknown other,

1175
01:31:52,840 --> 01:31:59,840
one with a mysterious relationship to
humanity and its own interest in our

1176
01:31:59,840 --> 01:32:00,840
world.

1177
01:32:02,380 --> 01:32:04,840
And if you saw him again, what would you
do?

1178
01:32:05,220 --> 01:32:09,240
I'll ask him what is he doing on earth
and what does he want from us.

1179
01:33:45,360 --> 01:33:52,240
They were well -observed UFO cases, just
like modern cases in the 18th century.

1180
01:33:52,280 --> 01:33:55,260
In the 17th century, there was science.

1181
01:33:55,520 --> 01:33:56,520
They were astronomers.

1182
01:33:56,820 --> 01:33:57,820
They had telescopes.

1183
01:33:58,220 --> 01:34:03,300
And they were very good observers,
because their life depended on being

1184
01:34:03,300 --> 01:34:06,960
observers. And these observations come
from all over the world.

1185
01:34:08,440 --> 01:34:10,120
They just have been forgotten.

1186
01:34:37,200 --> 01:34:41,440
I like to think of anomalies, mysteries
as opportunities.

1187
01:34:41,960 --> 01:34:47,960
And we'll go after those mysteries, take
the torch away from the campfire and

1188
01:34:47,960 --> 01:34:51,680
out of the cave into the darkness and
make some amazing discoveries.

1189
01:35:15,080 --> 01:35:20,620
The UFO phenomenon, as studied by my
colleagues and myself, bespeaks the

1190
01:35:20,620 --> 01:35:22,220
of some form of intelligence.

1191
01:36:00,010 --> 01:36:04,290
These objects gave the impression that
they wanted to be seen.

1192
01:36:05,610 --> 01:36:12,370
With these enormous spotlights, there
was no way that they were trying to

1193
01:36:12,530 --> 01:36:13,530
So why?

1194
01:36:13,610 --> 01:36:18,590
That is the main question. Why do these
objects want to be seen?

1195
01:36:39,880 --> 01:36:46,860
Later on, I was so sorry that why I did
not call on the

1196
01:36:46,860 --> 01:36:49,720
radio, ask them, who are you?

1197
01:36:50,460 --> 01:36:55,160
Please, make communication with us.

1198
01:37:12,460 --> 01:37:17,120
I figure if they're smart enough and
capable enough to come into our airspace

1199
01:37:17,120 --> 01:37:20,740
with the technology that they have, if
they wanted to do us in, they could have

1200
01:37:20,740 --> 01:37:23,860
done us in a long time ago. So I'm not
fearful of this at all.

1201
01:37:44,879 --> 01:37:50,260
I think if we really open up the world,
it will greatly promote the development

1202
01:37:50,260 --> 01:37:53,500
of the world's scientific and
technological system, and benefit human

1203
01:37:53,660 --> 01:37:54,840
This is a big thing.

1204
01:38:35,800 --> 01:38:36,800
That's it.

1205
01:38:37,400 --> 01:38:41,440
It went like a bat out of hell. Jumped
about 10 degrees to the right, just like

1206
01:38:41,440 --> 01:38:44,960
this. I've never seen anything go so
fast in my life as that thing went.

1207
01:38:45,120 --> 01:38:48,440
Incredible speed disappeared to nothing.

1208
01:38:48,720 --> 01:38:51,680
And just went zoom straight up so fast.

1209
01:38:52,180 --> 01:38:53,900
It's like it had been shot out of a gun.
Wow.

1210
01:38:54,200 --> 01:38:57,260
Now you see it, now you don't. It's just
too... But it just was...